tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post3977602974763061897..comments2024-03-21T10:16:35.080-04:00Comments on Rituals of DisEnchantment: 40 Ways to Leave Your (Divine) LoverUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-49717754540230437002013-12-18T16:41:31.057-05:002013-12-18T16:41:31.057-05:00Amma is not what she seems to be
http://embezzlin...Amma is not what she seems to be<br /><br />http://embezzlingtheworld.blogspot.comMata Amritasatyamayihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09611941457794876573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-45128245964219254992013-12-17T10:44:29.499-05:002013-12-17T10:44:29.499-05:00RE: Why do teachers take on disciples or followers...RE: Why do teachers take on disciples or followers if they already know who they are or what's going to happen.<br /><br />Some thoughts:<br />Firstly, people make teachers.<br />Any teacher, if identified as one, is a fraud<br />Out of compassion, because they see people are not seeing their own true nature, and thru different instances, processes or immediately, maybe they can direct the person to THAT!Annamalaimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04202455495377405676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-81507995063759219872013-12-04T11:59:26.803-05:002013-12-04T11:59:26.803-05:00"people have been arguing for centuries about..."people have been arguing for centuries about why Jesus accepted Judas"<br /><br />According to the Christian story, without Judas' actions there would have been no crucifiction and therefore no ressurection, therefore we wouldn't be able to be saved through Jesus. It always confused me why he's seen as the bad guy, when he in fact caused the event that is the cornerstone of Christian faith.Kristofskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09494676616288642838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-11837496444546732102013-12-03T23:13:28.952-05:002013-12-03T23:13:28.952-05:00Judas reincarnated as a disciple of Ramakrishna an...Judas reincarnated as a disciple of Ramakrishna and was liberated. Maya, or cosmic duality, requires opposites. Anantannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-2898857899636861022013-12-03T22:11:59.490-05:002013-12-03T22:11:59.490-05:00I think Kristofski brought up a good point. Why d...I think Kristofski brought up a good point. Why do teachers take on disciples or followers if they already know who they are or what's going to happen....people have been arguing for centuries about why Jesus accepted Judas....I wonder if anyone has an answer or thought on this? Thanks..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-30899095952794470352013-12-02T21:37:55.768-05:002013-12-02T21:37:55.768-05:00Dropping down the shit hole. Good luck, babe. You ...Dropping down the shit hole. Good luck, babe. You seriously blew it.Anantannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-88485721330843004122013-12-02T18:25:46.086-05:002013-12-02T18:25:46.086-05:00Though I don't really believe in enlightenment...Though I don't really believe in enlightenment as a concept, so that last sentence of mine isn't really true :)Kristofskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09494676616288642838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-9145443104370180682013-12-02T18:19:04.790-05:002013-12-02T18:19:04.790-05:00A few thoughts I have about this:
1) If Gail was ...A few thoughts I have about this:<br /><br />1) If Gail was such a toxic presence whilst living with Amma, as many people say on the ammascandal website, how did she manage to get to the level she did? Why didn't Amma pull her up on it? You could say Amma was trying to let her see her own faults, but it's clear that wasn't going to work.<br /><br />2. Whatever you think about her, you can't deny that Amma is human. The cult that has built up around her would make anyone go crazy. People follow her thinking she's their connection to God, when really any devine feeling people have when they're around her is simply their own reflected divinity. She might be very good at giving their reflection, but she's not "special". Any truly enlightend person would know that.Kristofskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09494676616288642838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-78877121118609686452013-12-02T03:56:07.941-05:002013-12-02T03:56:07.941-05:00anyone interested in finding out more details abou...anyone interested in finding out more details about the Gayatri vs, amma situation might want to check out: ammasacandal.wordpress.com. There are some missing details in the situation that have not been brought up here as yet. would be interesting to hear comments of those who have actually read what is on that site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-38569753882133024252013-11-08T18:26:25.539-05:002013-11-08T18:26:25.539-05:00Gail Tredwell's book "Holy Hell" rev...Gail Tredwell's book "Holy Hell" reveals that Amma was having sexual contact with her supposedly celibate swamis in particular the head of her organization who is accused of rape of several Amma nuns - women who trusted Amma to protect them. This terrible situation still exists after several decades. Amma's promoter and ashram resident Rishi Taavi Kassila was protected by Amma after he was accused of spreading herpes and having sex with teenage girls. Kassila's seductions started during his Amma promotion and yoga philosophy classes. Amma protects sex abusers but not her innocent followers.Amma Amritanandamayi - Patron Saint of Amritapuri Rapistshttp://amma-taavi-kassila-sex-cover-up.blogspot.com/2013/11/Amma-Amritanandamayi-Patron-Saint-of-Amritapuri-Ashram-Swami-Rapists.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-60769601283029416102013-11-01T01:04:56.519-04:002013-11-01T01:04:56.519-04:00Well written. The list seems to be non-exhaustive....Well written. The list seems to be non-exhaustive. I was recently sent this link by one of my friends, and looks interesting. http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28sHuginhttp://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-66576368470717258972013-10-27T12:28:15.253-04:002013-10-27T12:28:15.253-04:00Gail Tredwell's book (paperback) is now availa...Gail Tredwell's book (paperback) is now available on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Hell-Memoir-Devotion-Madness/dp/0989679403/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1382890672&sr=1-1<br /><br />And on ePub at https://www.ebookpie.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-81687821316302761582013-08-01T01:55:17.095-04:002013-08-01T01:55:17.095-04:00Amma keep $100 million in foreign bank. $2.4 bank ...Amma keep $100 million in foreign bank. $2.4 bank interest 2010-2011. See line 86:<br />http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183R&by=2010-2011<br /><br />Serve poor? Ha!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-5008326396529119442013-07-05T14:42:51.285-04:002013-07-05T14:42:51.285-04:00Amma has been linked to at least 5 suspicious deat...Amma has been linked to at least 5 suspicious deaths including her own dear brother by ex-policeman Sreeni Pattathanam<br /><br /><a href="http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2007/01/possible-murders-at-ammachis-matt.html" rel="nofollow">Guruphiliac: Murders At Ammachi's Matt?</a><br /><br />Amma is also implicated in a sex scandal cover up with her "Rishi" Taavi Kassila<br /><br /><a href="http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,102963" rel="nofollow">Amma Amritanandamayi Org Erase Evidence to Sex Abuser Taavi Kassila</a><br /><br />Amma Monk Threatens Woman He Infected With Herpeshttp://amma-taavi-kassila-sex-cover-up.blogspot.com/2012/03/amma-monk-threatens-woman-he-infected.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-23080596542551949432013-01-13T22:06:39.472-05:002013-01-13T22:06:39.472-05:00Whydo the MCs always pronounce Gurumayi's name...Whydo the MCs always pronounce Gurumayi's name in the most affected possible way? Just listened to the sound bite. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-39059927794559713792013-01-13T20:03:30.276-05:002013-01-13T20:03:30.276-05:00Message is up on SY site: Mantra JapaMessage is up on SY site: Mantra JapaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-56156302563663549902013-01-11T14:00:40.925-05:002013-01-11T14:00:40.925-05:00Hey all:
Doing some long delayed spring cleaning ...Hey all:<br /><br />Doing some long delayed spring cleaning in deleting old spam messages from earlier posts. Don't think this should affect unmoderated commenting, but if you have any problems give a shout. Email address is ritualsofdisenchantment@gmail.com<br /><br />SeekHerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659121733477310544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-85512285167812267272013-01-10T21:10:23.087-05:002013-01-10T21:10:23.087-05:00I love, really love the Amma dolls...bet SY is kic...I love, really love the Amma dolls...bet SY is kicking themselves for not coming up with this brilliant marketing ploy. Perfect expression of the dependence in the guru relationship...need a hug, hug your overpriced guru doll!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-83251474108129158052013-01-10T19:24:54.442-05:002013-01-10T19:24:54.442-05:00On a comparative note, I will say this:
At least G...On a comparative note, I will say this:<br />At least GM let us stand and WALK down the darshan line. Ammachi has her darshan visitors sit crosslegged on the floor for hours. They have stay seated and "scoot their butts" across the floor as the line slowly, slowly advances.<br /><br />Thins those way long darhan lines with GM that lasted hours were long? Not so, compared to those going up to Ammachi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-38906998576467736872013-01-10T18:12:21.236-05:002013-01-10T18:12:21.236-05:00On a more serious note re: the Gayatri 40. Amazing...On a more serious note re: the Gayatri 40. Amazing how similar it is to SY life in the ashram among long time full time slavites. The constant unrelenting crushing pressure every day, day after day, do, do, do, do, do more and do it all again. How does this crazy making continual massive change serve anyone's spiritual progress? Paths that are supposed to be about turning people within end up being about making the outer drama absolutely hellish. The best evidence that it was all about money all along, and control. SeekHerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659121733477310544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-15804485103135105192013-01-10T17:32:07.442-05:002013-01-10T17:32:07.442-05:00Anon 2:58
As OS has pointed out---lots of what th...Anon 2:58<br /><br />As OS has pointed out---lots of what the Amma Rolling Stone story covered went on in front of and behind the scenes in SY as well. People forget what it was like before G stopped giving darshan---the endless lines that went on for hours, the mountains of useless gifts (before word was quietly spread that it was more selfless to give checks, oh and don't bother earmarking what project or purpose you were giving it for, the Guru already knows...) <br /><br />My fave personal darshan gift story is this. One day I was walking down the street and saw an Asian girl selling little rosewood and glass pagodas on the sidewalk. Each one was filled with a different hand-carved cork tableau worked in dazzlingly intricate detail. I asked her about them and she said her grandfather learned the craft in China and they were one-of-a-kind and all painstakingly handmade by him. My eye alighted on a large, very expensive one that depicted a bridge flowing over a stream with trees and rocks and tiny flowers--and two lovers, one standing on either end. I bought it on the spot. G was about to leave Fallsburg for India and when I went up in darshan for the final Labor Day program of the summer I left it at her feet, with a note saying that the pagoda symbolized there will always be a bridge between us no matter how far apart we are-- or some such treacle. <br /><br />The next week I walked into a dollar store and saw hundreds of the same pagoda stacked against the wall, selling for a few bucks each. Made in China alright, probably by slave labor. The gift turned out to be as much of a sham as the relationship it was meant to celebrate. Somehow, that seems perfect.SeekHerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659121733477310544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-20262399461380360732013-01-10T16:57:34.931-05:002013-01-10T16:57:34.931-05:00>>" (One staff member, I notice, has th...>>" (One staff member, I notice, has the job of collecting the bouquets in a basket and then running them back to the table, where they are resold throughout the day.) ><<<br /><br /><br />errrrr...this used to be one of my sevas at the Temple in Fallsburg...once (towards the end of my tenure), I marked a coconut just for fun...it showed up five times in the darshan basket (before it was turned into "prasad")...someone sure had a HUGE "ego"..smile. Coconuts..the gifts that just keep on giving..and giving...and giving.<br /><br /><br />OSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-71730398320053742662013-01-10T16:23:08.244-05:002013-01-10T16:23:08.244-05:00How cinematic! This scene is far more entertaining...How cinematic! This scene is far more entertaining than any in Eat, Pray, Love:<br /><br />"People are coming to her with everything from coconuts to candy bars to handmade crafts, and for those who forgot to bring something, a table is set up at the start of the line where gifts for Amma are for sale: bouquets of flowers ranging from $5 to $20, a Toblerone bar for $5. (One staff member, I notice, has the job of collecting the bouquets in a basket and then running them back to the table, where they are resold throughout the day.) Before my hug, a plump guy in his forties with greasy brown hair shows up with a package of pecan cookies for Amma. She opens it with the zeal of a small child, and as she places a cookie in her mouth, two of her staff members rush in, cupping their hands under her mouth to ensure she doesn't dribble any crumbs into the hair of the man, whose face is now buried in her chest. As Amma holds him, she hands what is now a Blessed Cookie out into the crowd, and I watch as it is broken into minuscule pieces – crumbs, really – which are savored by those surrounding her."<br /><br />http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-hugging-saint-20120816#ixzz2HbsBBWDlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-509626135416101892013-01-10T15:29:34.530-05:002013-01-10T15:29:34.530-05:00Having been hugged by Amma, Ram Das has this backw...Having been hugged by Amma, Ram Das has this backwards. I was stained her HER sweat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-49774377001211446752013-01-10T15:17:12.899-05:002013-01-10T15:17:12.899-05:00my fave dose of Amma crazy comes in Ram Das commen...my fave dose of Amma crazy comes in Ram Das comments when he writes:<br /><br />"To any who have not met Amma, I heartily recommend that you come and see for yourself what Amma does, day in a day out: hugging thousands of people often for 14 or more hours without a break, listening to their sorrows, giving loving advice, and tirelessly sacrificing her body to give comfort and solace to the masses. At the end of each program her clothes are completely stained by their sweat. This is not real love? "<br /><br />I think I just threw up a little.SeekHerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659121733477310544noreply@blogger.com