tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post4678505161173119152..comments2024-03-21T10:16:35.080-04:00Comments on Rituals of DisEnchantment: Comments Are Now Unmoderated on RoDUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-32262057212721704942015-05-14T09:05:16.625-04:002015-05-14T09:05:16.625-04:00The letter is clearly not from Guru Maya, who is f...The letter is clearly not from Guru Maya, who is far better educated than the person who wrote this letter. Her use of language is complex and this letter's use of language is basic. It is written by someone with no tertiary education and an IQ that is below average. In contrast, Guru Maya is highly educated and intelligent - regardless of what you think of her as a spiritual teacher. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-69027061121841279362014-11-29T19:27:52.689-05:002014-11-29T19:27:52.689-05:00e cigarette, electronic cigarette reviews, smokele...e cigarette, <a href="http://electroniccigarettesreviewed.org" rel="nofollow">electronic cigarette reviews</a>, <a href="http://top5ecigarettesreviewed.com" rel="nofollow">smokeless cigarettes</a>, <a href="http://topelectroniccigarettesreviews.com" rel="nofollow">electronic cigarette</a>, <a href="http://top5ecigarettesreviews.com" rel="nofollow">electronic cigarettes</a>, <a href="http://topecigarettesreviewed.com" rel="nofollow">electronic cigarette</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-39752119746136310282014-11-28T19:28:29.064-05:002014-11-28T19:28:29.064-05:00smokeless cigarettes, electronic cigarette brands,...smokeless cigarettes, <a href="http://top5ecigarettesreviews.com" rel="nofollow">electronic cigarette brands</a>, <a href="http://electroniccigarettesreviewed.org" rel="nofollow">electronic cigarette</a>, <a href="http://topecigarettesreviewed.com" rel="nofollow">e cigarette</a>, <a href="http://topelectroniccigarettesreviews.com" rel="nofollow">e cigarette</a>, <a href="http://top5ecigarettesreviewed.com" rel="nofollow">ecig forum</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-12352379024190879962014-09-01T18:11:38.585-04:002014-09-01T18:11:38.585-04:00http://assetsignals.com
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Celsius and Kelvin temperature scales 4.3.4 calculate heat transfer through the use of a calorimeter Fans were impressed with the beauty of her figure and skin which is one of her best physical features.Andreajhqhhttp://blog.livedoor.jp/news23vip/archives/3602577.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-73670550857472790232013-01-04T09:06:27.071-05:002013-01-04T09:06:27.071-05:00Hey there! I've been following your weblog for...Hey there! I've been following your weblog for some time now and finally got the bravery to go ahead and give you a shout out from Atascocita Tx! 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He is clearly in delusion, denial, and using the evil gambit of diverting blame to the victims.<br /><br />Definition of the word detractor? critic, disparager, denigrator, deprecator, belittler, attacker, fault-finder, backbiter; slanderer, libeler; informal knocker: to take away a part; remove some of the quality or worth. <br /><br />No one who tells the facts about their abuse with SY or Mr. Butler is a detractor. They are human beings who were seeking God and were hurt by those who misused their power for their own profit, benefit, and EGO. Those who hurt others are the ones who have removed some of their own worth. No one did it to them. They have defamed themselves by their own evil actions. As they say in police circles, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. <br /><br />Unlike common criminals, which they are, those who did the crimes have not been held accountable for them. They continue to lie and mislead others. They have not publicly acknowledged their crimes. Butler's concession to some of his misdeeds, is a "karmic hiccup." Oh wait, am I getting too serious here? Ha ha ha. Feel better now, Mr. Butler? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-14513856972884777942012-12-15T03:31:00.948-05:002012-12-15T03:31:00.948-05:00Re: "Ram" D. R. Butler saying "Sidd...Re: "Ram" D. R. Butler saying "Siddha Yoga detractors seem very serious, angry, and a bit mean-spirited. Reading what they write is generally unpleasant." Whereas, he says, "Siddha Yoga practitioners are generally lighthearted, playful, and content within themselves."<br /><br />Come on. GIve me a break. Does he really expect that to fly? But it makes for good opposition. Since the majority of his followers are SY people, they all get to preen and assure themselves they are superior to those mean-spirited detractors. Nice ego boost to keep them coming back for more of Mr. D. R. Butler. Or is he Ram these days? Or did he have to give up the name Ram when he got booted from the ashram? I've heard he isn't legally allowed to use Muktananda or Gurumayi's name, but not certain if that is true.<br /><br />Mr. Butler wishes all the negative noise about SY would stop because it happens to include him and his past, or what he refers to as a "karmic hiccup." Yes, that must be what it is when you cheat on your wife, lie, and abuse your power as a spiritual teacher to get spiritual seekers into your bed over a period of many years.<br /><br />He says, "I don't even know why I'm here writing this..." What? He doesn't know why he is writing? No clue? No reason? No agenda? <br /><br />SY is based on a fabrication of Muktananda carrying on a lineage from Nitayananda all the way back to Shiva. Come on. And then Chid rewrote SY history when she cut out any evidence of her brother. The history of sexual abuse in SY has also been denied. Yes, I can see why most Siddha Yoga practitioners are light-hearted. There's a lot to laugh about. <br /><br />One reason people write about this - yes - still - is because the lies are so strong. Mr. Butler relies - yes - still - upon his association with SY to keep making - yes - still - money. He's got a vested interest. So we should accept his word that SY detactors who do not support the lies are mean-spirited? That's having a mean spirit? Does that mean he and all the other SY's have nice spirits? <br /><br />Listen, ya'll. None of those nice-spirited SY folks are ever gonna admit or take responsibility for their mistakes. Not happening. Especially when there is still money to be made and power to be had. They can trample on people's spirits and come out content with themselves. They were just being playful after all. So their hearts are light. Full of light. And those who were hurt, why, they are just mean-spirited.<br /><br />So there is some truth to "letting your lives slip by"-- there must be an acceptance that those who created the most harm just don't care. They will make excuses and rationalize their behavior, do anything but come to terms with the pain they caused, because to do so would mean facing a pain inside so great they can't even look at it. <br /><br />So I agree, don't let your lives slip by waiting for the wrong-doers to admit, own up, apologize or in any way come clean or change. Ain't gonna happen. And that is to their detriment. But that does not mean that each person who was hurt cannot heal. Good bye for now - just call me Joe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-54298733640917514482010-10-29T18:20:38.816-04:002010-10-29T18:20:38.816-04:00Do we really know Malti's real writing style? ...Do we really know Malti's real writing style? Her speeches were all written by others (mostly Durgananda) and massaged by committees. I remember there used to be this disjuncture from when she went from reading the speeches to ad libbing - mostly tormenting, teasing and making fun of the people around her. It was like a split personality. Except the speeches wern't really her in the first place. <br /><br />I still don't think the letter is real. It speaks as if SYDA were directing Malti, not the other way around. She has always been in charge and she knows how to play power politics. See how she dealt with her brother. Maybe the only person she couldn't control was George. <br /><br />I know people who've visited her in SF in last few years. But for the most part she has been in hiding since she turned 50. There haven't been any published photos of her since she turned 40. What we have here is someone living on past glory.<br /><br />GorakhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-67349644117498184432010-09-28T16:19:01.435-04:002010-09-28T16:19:01.435-04:00Seekher,
Yes same William Golding. Will look for ...Seekher, <br />Yes same William Golding. Will look for Graves' Claudius. Power corrupts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-44178287643300244992010-09-26T12:15:26.696-04:002010-09-26T12:15:26.696-04:00ANON 9/23/9:02
Is this the same William Golding w...ANON 9/23/9:02<br /><br />Is this the same William Golding who wrote Lord of the Flies? Interesting that you are finding parallels in your reading of ancient Roman history with your time in Siddha Yoga. <br />Coincidentally, just last night I finished reading Robert Graves' "I, Claudius" and began "Claudius the God." Fascinating, compulsively readable stuff. When Caligula declares himself a God and everyone who comes before him must fall flat on their faces in his presence--and when he dedicates temples to himself and his predecessors and appoints priests and priestesses to develop a liturgy and chants and rituals to worship him---well, let's just say I didn't need to struggle to find a modern parallel.SeekHerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659121733477310544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-80097322430695867602010-09-25T08:39:02.268-04:002010-09-25T08:39:02.268-04:00Dear Seekher
A reaction on Lucid's questions, ...Dear Seekher<br />A reaction on Lucid's questions, <br /><br />Now this "letter from Malti" has me wondering: <br /><br />Even if GM did in fact want to write a letter to the devotees, could she? By that I mean, could she get such a thing distributed without being censored? <br /> ******<br />You have the assumption G was in the ashram....But she wasn't there at all! I got this letter when rumours were brushed aside by the organisation,that she was probably ill (in 2007).....<br />Lucid, I really invite you to read the letter again, what is it/she is telling us? Why would someone else would make this up? Otherwise it must have been written by someone verywell informed or some one who could see G's future. Because because because ....the things she mentioned became thruth.<br /> <br /> *********<br />Is she still in a position within the org to do what she wants the way she wants when she wants? <br />***<br />That is what happens, even if we are 'out', we keep thinking in a limited way. The teacher who said people create their own story by lack of transparancy is probably right, but the possitive part of it, is the proces itself. I think by questioning more and more, keeping your eyes open for synchronicities(!),you are able to look beyond boundaries finding Reality ( which are even beyond belief). <br />To be honest I think it is rather a job for the org in SF, to keep the lies going on. ...ever heard of 'stand in' people ( actors)?<br />MME ZorroAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-80140688389065134192010-09-23T21:02:57.939-04:002010-09-23T21:02:57.939-04:00GM's is an old story....and a today story...
...GM's is an old story....and a today story...<br /><br />Came across book by Willism Golding, "The Double Tongue" Conversations between the priestess and her counselor straight out of SY backroom discussions. If you were inside this is fascinating inside look at managing temple economics and marketing. <br /><br />From a review online...credit Google<br /><br />"During the time of Julius Caesar in Rome, a young virgin in Greece, living in a small village near Delphi, was chosen to be a successor to the Pythia or Oracle.<br /><br />Arieka, as she was called, was to be the Third Lady, essentially an oracular lady-in-waiting, to be available to replace the Second Lady after her ascension to First Lady, the seer who spoke for the gods. <br /><br /><br />Arieka spent her time reading in the Bookroom, one small part of which contained Roman books written in Latin. The room was therefore called by the Latin name for book, librarium. Her mentor, Ionides, told her that Latin is, "a language with too much grammar and no literature." That is certainly true of Latin today. Latin's sole remaining uses are for naming things, like plants in botany, drugs in medicine, and legal concepts in law. <br /><br /><br />When the First Lady and Second Lady died within weeks of each other, Arieka was pressed into service as the Pythia. Immediately she had to sit in the seat, breathe the gases from the hole in the cliff, and burn laurel leaves to inhale and go into a trance. At first Ionides gave his carefully prepared answers to important political questions of the oracle, using intelligence he gathered from the Internet of the time: carrier pigeons from other major oracles. <br /><br />Soon Arieka began to give oracular answers on her own in hexameter verse, as the Pythias in the distant past had done. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />In addition Golding adds a sprinkling of his own insights into diverse subjects. An example is when during a procession of international dignitaries to Delphi, he has Arieka say:<br /><br /><br />[page 66] The back of a crowd, according to Ionides, is where the true nature on an international relationship may be studied in little. <br /><br />A view behind the scenes of the Temple of Delphi. <br /><br />My take: The priest and his oracel were cynical and at the same time sympathetic somehow. Both at once. Found the book shed light on my SY experience. <br /><br />Thanks Seekher for the company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-15595919104836361322010-09-22T14:53:14.864-04:002010-09-22T14:53:14.864-04:00Seeker wrote: “But then I think that I'm not b...Seeker wrote: “But then I think that I'm not being fair to myself. The path meant so much to me for so long and I gave so much of myself to it; there is no reason to be ashamed at having loved, and attempting to love unconditionally.”<br /><br />***<br /><br />Perhaps it was something that somebody mentioned in the din of Salon’s drawing battle lines that stirred a pang of reverie. It was, perhaps, some fanciful offering of a large public program to be held in So. Fallsburg. It caught my eye and plunged its owner to sudden desire for what had once been. The days of the well tended park-like drive, its wild flowers and flowing grasses, together they ushered pilgrims through paved hallways of gentle slopes and rising mounds, transporting one off the mundane humdrum of gray public pavement, to the nestled enchantment of Siddha Yoga’s mountain grown Shangri La. <br /><br />It flared in memory like a carrot, or a flame. So am I a horse or a moth? And yet four years plus since I hopped the barbed fence, bloodied for the effort, for no long timer reaches the guru-free zone unscathed in their escaping. But what if it were true, this flickering of hypothetical consideration, that convocation could re-materialize from long retreat. What then when part of me was still eager and several hundred anti-postings later, on various blogs, could not weight upon me or refrain the horse or moth from doing what for them comes naturally. <br /><br />The pull. I was surprised by the sudden show of strength. Its grasp took fast, and like that, I was wanting. Not that should there be something to go to I would again give them access to my wallet, or sign up for a course, or buy from bookstore page or sound or trinket. Not that I would hang on GM’s every word, or bow head or fold hands as in days gone by when her presence in the hall announced itself to me, buzzing the subtle nerves in advance of eyes perceiving – now if there were any buzz from said aura to emit among the masses. In fact I imagine I’d skip darshan, maybe the whole program - lack of interest you know. A visit with Bade Baba though, the Bade now a misnomer through subtraction of a Baba that’s a Baba no more. Food! Of course food, swank Amrit or proletarian dining hall, but just say nay to Kool Aid.<br /><br />Not for the Kool Aid mind you but the comfort, the jubilation, the inexplicable tingle of this rarified air; approaching the building from the lot, the evergreen lined entrance to the white palace (designed oddly in the building’s back), closer, a high elevation stroll towards palpable expansion - greater than yourself - mingling with others who know palpable too. <br /><br />It’ boarding a ship not sea worthy and sinking, an alluring Jezebel with crabs, the perfumed cover of something gone smelly; a sandwich sneezed upon behind a counter - the telling whites bloodshot, the nose running, the voice rasped. It’s flu season and probably better to bite the bullet than the bread and chuck the later in the garbage. <br /><br />And be gentle with yourself cause you’re hungry and your stomach is growling and sometimes it burps up an epithet. <br /><br />MBGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-1988456336880243602010-09-21T15:42:19.647-04:002010-09-21T15:42:19.647-04:00It strikes me as sadly apropos: a path that emerge...It strikes me as sadly apropos: a path that emerged thirty years ago shrouded in secrecy now retreats back into the shadows, still cloaked in the same.<br /><br />-LucidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-89333893970466695782010-09-20T01:41:28.723-04:002010-09-20T01:41:28.723-04:00D.
I never lived in Ganeshpuri but I visited in 8...D.<br /><br />I never lived in Ganeshpuri but I visited in 87, and the morning I returned I sat in a coffee shop on 1st Avenue and wept that I was in its silent gardens no more. I like your haunted house metaphor better now that I understand it's we "outties" who haunt it with the ghosts of tenacious memory.<br /><br />If pornography offends it is because it violates the essential privacy of sexual union. But there is something even more private than sex and that is grief. Much of the revulsion the "innies" feel toward us "outties" is that we embody and manifest the grief of the sangham. We are the whore-priestesses of whatever follows belief, whatever flowers from the blasted trunk of disenchantment.<br /><br />Cobra. At times when I think of my years in Siddha Yoga I feel--- embarrassment. Possibly probably that is a defense mechanism. It's certainly a sign that I've attained a degree of detachment--the true believer feels no shame. But then I think that I'm not being fair to myself. The path meant so much to me for so long and I gave so much of myself to it; there is no reason to be ashamed at having loved, and attempting to love unconditionally. This is one of the ways I try to put into practice your excellent advice that we be good to ourselves.<br /><br />Anon: I'm guessing that Cobra holds out no more hope than you do that SYDA will come clean. Still, it's important that we say it, that we all issue the same challenge. It's the clamor that will bring down the walls of Jericho.<br /><br />I'm still here. You all keep writing intelligent things and I will keep responding. But RoD will change going forward. A few days ago I posted a video of a song by The Slackers that I love, and whose lyrics are so terrible and beautiful and strange that I can only conceive of them as either the world's most gorgeous suicide note--or the goodbye we've all been waiting for from G. Expect more dispatches like this, of things that remind me of the path but from the hard-won distance we who have completed our disenchantment like to maintain.SeekHerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659121733477310544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-35670209936644895372010-09-19T14:33:25.153-04:002010-09-19T14:33:25.153-04:00Cobra said "I challenge SYDA to give us the r...Cobra said "I challenge SYDA to give us the real reason for what's going on, not empty platitudes and assurances that everything is business as usual."<br /><br />Cobra, this is going to come out harsher-sounding than I really mean it. While it is intended to be as cynical and sarcastic as it sounds, it is not meant to be harsh. Instead, I truly mean this as gently, and warmly, and as softly, and compssionately as i can, as I say:<br /><br />"Good luck with that one!"<br /><br />SeekHer,<br /><br />Does this mean you're shutting down the blog soon?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-46000853148272701272010-09-18T15:24:11.722-04:002010-09-18T15:24:11.722-04:00If any of us ever do get over it it will be a long...If any of us ever do get over it it will be a long slow process, and it will take a lot of patience and being good to ourselves. We are not at fault here, she didn't go away because of some failing in us so please nobody blame yourself. If anything she is at fault for not living up to what SYDA promised us, a living guru. Remember hearing, "If you take one step towards the Guru she will take 10 steps towards you"?<br />Yeah, not so much now. I challenge SYDA to give us the real reason for whats going on, not empty platitudes and assurances that everything is business as usual.cobranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-34991739239380900582010-09-18T14:46:56.155-04:002010-09-18T14:46:56.155-04:00Hi Seekher,
I do get your point and appreciate it...Hi Seekher,<br /><br />I do get your point and appreciate it, as I do all of your posts. And I agree that the more apt metaphor is that of a missing family member.<br /><br />I guess that, like you, I'm turning toward looking after my own health. I'm still drawn to the discussion here at your blog, and perhaps I'm projecting the feeling that we're like kids playing around an abandoned house -- knowing it's abandoned (for us, at least) and yet entertaining each other with stories about it. The 'kid' is me, and I can't quite pull myself away from the house.<br /><br />In some cases people seem to be trying to transform the myth of GM -- making her somehow a victim of the foundation, which is why I liked that myth to Boo Radley. I'm confounded that anyone could actually suggest such a thing.<br /><br />I liked Lucid's comment that in the absence of information, people make up their own stories. The stories we're seeing, such as the fabricated letter from GM, are starting to spin a little more wildly. <br /><br />I'm paying attention to what response is invoked in me by reading such things -- it often makes me feel like crap, and I wonder what good I'm doing myself by indulging in it.<br /><br />This morning I again had a vivid dream of going back to Ganeshpuri, and awoke knowing that it will never happen (even if I did make the trip). I spent years there and know every bit of the reality of living there (without privileged status), yet in my dreams it is still an amazing paradise.<br /><br />At least the dreams in which GM is even colder, more critical and meaner than in 'real life' have faded. <br /><br />Am I over this? Obviously not quite yet.<br /><br />DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-12129168761328805012010-09-18T12:45:52.310-04:002010-09-18T12:45:52.310-04:00D
I understand your haunted house metaphor, but I...D<br /><br />I understand your haunted house metaphor, but I don't buy it. If G had folded up shop, put out a press release saying she was stepping down from the chair and we were still here seven years later fulminating about past wrongs and lost time, then you would have a point. But G (or exactly more to the point, the SYDA Foundation) still pretends she is around and it is business as usual, when that is certainly not true. If anyone is making up imaginary inhabitants to people an empty house, it is them. <br /><br />This is what stops many people from moving on in their own lives. You can see it in the letters from the pro-SYDA crowd over at Salon (whose expose on Siddha Yoga sparked this latest wave of comments here). The people who wrote in to defend both G and SYDA seemed trapped in amber, simultaneously effusive and non-committal about their current practice, as if revealing too much might get them barred at the door of their local center or, equally likely, because they really don't have much to say because there isn't much going on and they are really talking about their memories of the path as it was in the golden years. <br /><br />I think a more apt metaphor is that of a family in the midst of a missing person crisis. At some point at least some members of the family accept the inevitable, give the loved one up for dead, and attempt to move on. Others, lacking a cold body to grieve over, never give up and are only too happy to believe charlatans who prey on their false hopes with stories that the person was seen by a friend of a friend of a friend, somewhere at sometime. <br /><br />How sad that so many in Siddha Yoga seem content to rationalize G's continued existence due to a few casually tossed off phantom sightings--"yes, she was giving programs in Fallsburg last summer", or, "she was in Ganeshpuri last month; Gargi knows someone who saw here there." <br /><br />Now, while I disagree with you about WHY we are all still here, I do think you have a very valid point about WHETHER we should all still be here. After this latest round of innies and outties duking it out at Salon, I for one am ready to give up on those who cannot give up hope. They are simply deluded beyond any reach. And yes, that does mean it is time to move on myself, having completed my disenchantment with the path through this blog, and no longer having any real hope of offering the same liberation to those who cling tenaciously to the Guru's feet.SeekHerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659121733477310544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-60656976237602435902010-09-17T20:17:58.201-04:002010-09-17T20:17:58.201-04:00One last try on this site as the posts with inform...One last try on this site as the posts with information regarding Stuart Resnick and his teacher Seung Sahn have been deleted at 100%.<br /><br />If this is deleted I will assume that this site holds the position of protecting Stuart Resnick and not allowing this community the opportunity to research and understand Stuart's long involvement with the cult group of Seung Sahn after leaving Siddha Yoga and Muktananda.<br /><br />Stuart Resnick has long inserted himself in to the ex Siddha Yoga community without disclosure of this involvement. Stuart Resnick has long tried to use the "blame the victim" reasoning with adult females who have been sexually abused by their spiritual teachers. Stuart Resnick has reworked in his mind the meaning of the word "consentual" for the abuse these women have suffered.<br /><br />For each person who has been abused by a spiritual leader, whether it be in Siddha Yoga or another group, and to all in this community, you have the right to be fully informed of this history so you do not allow yourself to be pulled in to any further conflict by this person's posting style.<br /><br />Go to<br /><br />http://www.rickross.com<br /><br />Enter the name Seung Sahn in the search engine box located at the end of the column with the entries which read<br /><br />Getting Help<br />Group Information Archives<br />etc.<br /><br />Then hit GoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-11775012031500539412010-09-17T14:48:45.394-04:002010-09-17T14:48:45.394-04:00Something an instructor of mine said years ago in ...Something an instructor of mine said years ago in a lecture on the importance of transparency in leadership is this:<br /><br />"In the absence of information people create their own story."<br /><br />- LucidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-61570336441324675912010-09-17T10:08:16.540-04:002010-09-17T10:08:16.540-04:00I have long been a sympathetic reader of this site...I have long been a sympathetic reader of this site, and will almost certainly continue to visit. Unfortunately, though, we've hit a stage where we're like kids playing around an abandoned house, making up stories about the old lady/witch who lives inside, when actually she is long gone. <br /><br />Or, alternatively, think 'Boo Radley,' except that Boo never shows up, and is unlikely to be nearly so sympathetic or heroic if he/she did step back into the light of day. Perhaps now some of us at least are hoping the GM is more like Boo, held captive by the Foundation, who will some day step forth into the light of day...but I digress.<br /><br />The 'ashram' against which we rail at this point is something of a haunted house, though our imaginations are beginning to spin as we create tales about the 'Foundation.'<br /><br />I don't mean to trivialize any of what has gone on, nor the significance of our discussions here, which have been a significant part of my own 'Rituals of Disenchantment' over the last few years. It's just sad (and in some ways a little unhealthy) to continue to rage and fulminate at the specters playing in the shadows of a haunted house.<br /><br />DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-38970913509543995662010-09-15T21:15:10.449-04:002010-09-15T21:15:10.449-04:00Now this "letter from Malti" has me wond...Now this "letter from Malti" has me wondering: <br /><br />Even if GM did in fact want to write a letter to the devotees, could she? By that I mean, could she get such a thing distributed without being censored? Is she still in a position within the org to do what she wants the way she wants when she wants? Does whoever's still there keeping the dream alive still bow to her?<br /><br />- LucidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-71918474335949239582010-09-15T14:59:10.625-04:002010-09-15T14:59:10.625-04:00Stuart's comment was great--read it first on t...Stuart's comment was great--read it first on the Salon comment page. <br /><br />The "letter" is so clearly not written by GM--not just the grammar, but the syntax, the word use, what Stuart pointed out about the use of "Siddha" as shorthand for Siddha Yoga, many other things. It's just not the way she expresses herself, in any way. Ludicrous claim.<br /><br />It surprised me how many people responding on Salon were unaware that D.R. Butler is Ram. Can't blame him for trying to make a living doing what he's always done, I guess. What else could he do?<br /><br />It's over, folks. Face it.<br /><br />older but wiserAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com