tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post8814264797330887161..comments2024-03-21T10:16:35.080-04:00Comments on Rituals of DisEnchantment: When Kristians Attempt KriyasUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-62333415790719407352010-10-06T18:14:00.291-04:002010-10-06T18:14:00.291-04:00"I remember Subhash holding Malti's hand ..."I remember Subhash holding Malti's hand up high and very emotionally, nearly choking up, pledging to the assembled throngs that "We will never split!"<br /><br />"Malti did not smile, kept a complete poker face, said absolutely NOTHING and if I remember correctly, even may have kept her eyes closed as he held her hand aloft in his and made that statement."<br /><br />That's exactly how I remember it from the video as well (local ashram). <br /><br />Funny you should post this on Nityananda's birthday date.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-70270403691358727612010-10-06T11:31:30.181-04:002010-10-06T11:31:30.181-04:00Stuart,
I recall that scene as well.
Wasn't p...Stuart,<br /><br />I recall that scene as well.<br />Wasn't physically there, but saw the video that was distributed to the local city ashrams and centers shortly thereafter.<br /><br />I remember Subhash holding Malti's hand up high and very emotionally, nearly choking up, pledging to the assembled throngs that "We will never split!"<br /><br />Malti did not smile, kept a complete poker face, said absolutely NOTHING and if I remember correctly, even may have kept her eyes closed as he held her hand aloft in his and made that statement.<br /><br />At the time I, like a good sheep, remember thinking to myself "Oh, she must be in such a deep state she can't even speak, or is so emotionally overwhelmed that she can't talk."<br /><br />Now that I'm long since out of SY, had my critical mind been functioning, an entirely different thought or conclusion might have occurred to me.<br /><br />But it didn't. Not at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-83445156213306377182010-10-05T17:58:34.307-04:002010-10-05T17:58:34.307-04:00At the big ceremony in Ganeshpuri, ~Oct-82 after M...At the big ceremony in Ganeshpuri, ~Oct-82 after Mukt's death, when Nit & GM sat up on their side-by-side thrones to formally become the co-gurus...<br /><br />Nity grabbed GM's hand, held them high, and said, "No one will every break us apart!" Funny thing is, no one had ever said anything about breaking them apart. He must have been responding to conflicts that us ordinary devotees never saw, or in his own head. It was a clear sign that things were sketchy, right from the start.<br /><br /><a href="http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Stuart</a>stuartresnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16879896068458013439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-24153844085995175872010-10-01T13:02:30.043-04:002010-10-01T13:02:30.043-04:00Thank you for the history lesson!
And, yes, I sec...Thank you for the history lesson!<br /><br />And, yes, I second the motion on SeekHer deleting redundant posts if it's not too much time consuming. (Kinda cumbersome scrolling through all these repeats.) <br /><br />Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-37364092461575656332010-10-01T12:35:53.027-04:002010-10-01T12:35:53.027-04:00One more thing I forgot: The Shakti Mandap didn...One more thing I forgot: The Shakti Mandap didn't exist at SMA in Muk's day, either. This was built in the late 1980's if I remember correctly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-20444346190570176062010-10-01T12:32:21.181-04:002010-10-01T12:32:21.181-04:00Argh...computer did it again.
Hit the button once ...Argh...computer did it again.<br />Hit the button once and the webpage went down, and one comment got posted four or five times.<br /><br />SeekHer: Please delete the redundant posts if you wish...I really didn't mean for those to get repeated like this. It's a technical problem with my PC, I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-90725757467675335142010-10-01T12:30:28.585-04:002010-10-01T12:30:28.585-04:003. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram ...3. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram of his own that Mukt used as a model or were GSP, SMA, etc. all Mukt's own devising? <br /><br />Ever been to Ganeshpuri? The temple area in town, and the house Nityananda had, are there. At GSP, there's a little building attached to the main Ashram that seems to mainly be for the local Indians to hold satsang, and not many of the Westerners seem to venture in there. That little building was the original Gavdevi ashram that Nityananda supposedly told Muk to go stay at in the several years before Nityananda passed away. In other words, Muk's original Ganeshpuri ashram before he worked to get GSP built.<br /><br />SMA was called "Shree Nityananda Ashram" when I started SY since Muk was still alive. It forget the name of the hotel it used to be...but it was purchased around 1978 and came into full use around 1979 or 1980, a year before I met Muk in spring 1981. At that time, "Turiya Mandir", now known as "Muktananda Mandir" was still pretty new and had recently been revamped for its use as a large meditation hall.<br /><br />And "Turiya Mandir" was VERY different from the Muktananda Mandir of today. MUCH smaller...the back section of MM used to be a separate set of rooms and the walls were knocked down to expand the meditation hall. Also, all those columns and pillars, and the opulent pujas, weren't there either. The coloring of the carpet and the walls were also very, VERY different. GM changed that hall significantly and made it a LOT more luxurious.<br /><br />Oh...and the Nityananda temple was MUCH smaller and was open-air. The facility seen in GM's day was also significantly enlarged and made much more opulent. All those crystals, the statues of the gods and goddesses, etc....none of that was there in Muk's day. Just an open air small (VERY small) temple with Nityananda's murti. In winter, there was a temporary enclosure put around it with space heaters to keep the murti from freezing. Just beyond the temple was a large, oblong fountain with flagpoles and flags of all the nations that SY had ashrams and centers in. And finally...all those statues of Shiva, Jesus, Moses, Martin Luther King, etc. seen on the "silent path" (another GM addition...in Muk's day there was no Atma Nidhi nor Sadhana Kutir...only what is now Anugraha)...it was GM who moved those to the silent path. All those statues used to be near the windows on the lawn in front of the "guru's house" side of the building in Muk's day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-37504952156320175932010-10-01T12:30:27.967-04:002010-10-01T12:30:27.967-04:003. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram ...3. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram of his own that Mukt used as a model or were GSP, SMA, etc. all Mukt's own devising? <br /><br />Ever been to Ganeshpuri? The temple area in town, and the house Nityananda had, are there. At GSP, there's a little building attached to the main Ashram that seems to mainly be for the local Indians to hold satsang, and not many of the Westerners seem to venture in there. That little building was the original Gavdevi ashram that Nityananda supposedly told Muk to go stay at in the several years before Nityananda passed away. In other words, Muk's original Ganeshpuri ashram before he worked to get GSP built.<br /><br />SMA was called "Shree Nityananda Ashram" when I started SY since Muk was still alive. It forget the name of the hotel it used to be...but it was purchased around 1978 and came into full use around 1979 or 1980, a year before I met Muk in spring 1981. At that time, "Turiya Mandir", now known as "Muktananda Mandir" was still pretty new and had recently been revamped for its use as a large meditation hall.<br /><br />And "Turiya Mandir" was VERY different from the Muktananda Mandir of today. MUCH smaller...the back section of MM used to be a separate set of rooms and the walls were knocked down to expand the meditation hall. Also, all those columns and pillars, and the opulent pujas, weren't there either. The coloring of the carpet and the walls were also very, VERY different. GM changed that hall significantly and made it a LOT more luxurious.<br /><br />Oh...and the Nityananda temple was MUCH smaller and was open-air. The facility seen in GM's day was also significantly enlarged and made much more opulent. All those crystals, the statues of the gods and goddesses, etc....none of that was there in Muk's day. Just an open air small (VERY small) temple with Nityananda's murti. In winter, there was a temporary enclosure put around it with space heaters to keep the murti from freezing. Just beyond the temple was a large, oblong fountain with flagpoles and flags of all the nations that SY had ashrams and centers in. And finally...all those statues of Shiva, Jesus, Moses, Martin Luther King, etc. seen on the "silent path" (another GM addition...in Muk's day there was no Atma Nidhi nor Sadhana Kutir...only what is now Anugraha)...it was GM who moved those to the silent path. All those statues used to be near the windows on the lawn in front of the "guru's house" side of the building in Muk's day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-83394179283283076992010-10-01T12:30:26.897-04:002010-10-01T12:30:26.897-04:003. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram ...3. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram of his own that Mukt used as a model or were GSP, SMA, etc. all Mukt's own devising? <br /><br />Ever been to Ganeshpuri? The temple area in town, and the house Nityananda had, are there. At GSP, there's a little building attached to the main Ashram that seems to mainly be for the local Indians to hold satsang, and not many of the Westerners seem to venture in there. That little building was the original Gavdevi ashram that Nityananda supposedly told Muk to go stay at in the several years before Nityananda passed away. In other words, Muk's original Ganeshpuri ashram before he worked to get GSP built.<br /><br />SMA was called "Shree Nityananda Ashram" when I started SY since Muk was still alive. It forget the name of the hotel it used to be...but it was purchased around 1978 and came into full use around 1979 or 1980, a year before I met Muk in spring 1981. At that time, "Turiya Mandir", now known as "Muktananda Mandir" was still pretty new and had recently been revamped for its use as a large meditation hall.<br /><br />And "Turiya Mandir" was VERY different from the Muktananda Mandir of today. MUCH smaller...the back section of MM used to be a separate set of rooms and the walls were knocked down to expand the meditation hall. Also, all those columns and pillars, and the opulent pujas, weren't there either. The coloring of the carpet and the walls were also very, VERY different. GM changed that hall significantly and made it a LOT more luxurious.<br /><br />Oh...and the Nityananda temple was MUCH smaller and was open-air. The facility seen in GM's day was also significantly enlarged and made much more opulent. All those crystals, the statues of the gods and goddesses, etc....none of that was there in Muk's day. Just an open air small (VERY small) temple with Nityananda's murti. In winter, there was a temporary enclosure put around it with space heaters to keep the murti from freezing. Just beyond the temple was a large, oblong fountain with flagpoles and flags of all the nations that SY had ashrams and centers in. And finally...all those statues of Shiva, Jesus, Moses, Martin Luther King, etc. seen on the "silent path" (another GM addition...in Muk's day there was no Atma Nidhi nor Sadhana Kutir...only what is now Anugraha)...it was GM who moved those to the silent path. All those statues used to be near the windows on the lawn in front of the "guru's house" side of the building in Muk's day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-23843743848952941932010-10-01T12:30:24.176-04:002010-10-01T12:30:24.176-04:003. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram ...3. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram of his own that Mukt used as a model or were GSP, SMA, etc. all Mukt's own devising? <br /><br />Ever been to Ganeshpuri? The temple area in town, and the house Nityananda had, are there. At GSP, there's a little building attached to the main Ashram that seems to mainly be for the local Indians to hold satsang, and not many of the Westerners seem to venture in there. That little building was the original Gavdevi ashram that Nityananda supposedly told Muk to go stay at in the several years before Nityananda passed away. In other words, Muk's original Ganeshpuri ashram before he worked to get GSP built.<br /><br />SMA was called "Shree Nityananda Ashram" when I started SY since Muk was still alive. It forget the name of the hotel it used to be...but it was purchased around 1978 and came into full use around 1979 or 1980, a year before I met Muk in spring 1981. At that time, "Turiya Mandir", now known as "Muktananda Mandir" was still pretty new and had recently been revamped for its use as a large meditation hall.<br /><br />And "Turiya Mandir" was VERY different from the Muktananda Mandir of today. MUCH smaller...the back section of MM used to be a separate set of rooms and the walls were knocked down to expand the meditation hall. Also, all those columns and pillars, and the opulent pujas, weren't there either. The coloring of the carpet and the walls were also very, VERY different. GM changed that hall significantly and made it a LOT more luxurious.<br /><br />Oh...and the Nityananda temple was MUCH smaller and was open-air. The facility seen in GM's day was also significantly enlarged and made much more opulent. All those crystals, the statues of the gods and goddesses, etc....none of that was there in Muk's day. Just an open air small (VERY small) temple with Nityananda's murti. In winter, there was a temporary enclosure put around it with space heaters to keep the murti from freezing. Just beyond the temple was a large, oblong fountain with flagpoles and flags of all the nations that SY had ashrams and centers in. And finally...all those statues of Shiva, Jesus, Moses, Martin Luther King, etc. seen on the "silent path" (another GM addition...in Muk's day there was no Atma Nidhi nor Sadhana Kutir...only what is now Anugraha)...it was GM who moved those to the silent path. All those statues used to be near the windows on the lawn in front of the "guru's house" side of the building in Muk's day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-15171676737075384452010-10-01T12:30:21.363-04:002010-10-01T12:30:21.363-04:003. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram ...3. Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram of his own that Mukt used as a model or were GSP, SMA, etc. all Mukt's own devising? <br /><br />Ever been to Ganeshpuri? The temple area in town, and the house Nityananda had, are there. At GSP, there's a little building attached to the main Ashram that seems to mainly be for the local Indians to hold satsang, and not many of the Westerners seem to venture in there. That little building was the original Gavdevi ashram that Nityananda supposedly told Muk to go stay at in the several years before Nityananda passed away. In other words, Muk's original Ganeshpuri ashram before he worked to get GSP built.<br /><br />SMA was called "Shree Nityananda Ashram" when I started SY since Muk was still alive. It forget the name of the hotel it used to be...but it was purchased around 1978 and came into full use around 1979 or 1980, a year before I met Muk in spring 1981. At that time, "Turiya Mandir", now known as "Muktananda Mandir" was still pretty new and had recently been revamped for its use as a large meditation hall.<br /><br />And "Turiya Mandir" was VERY different from the Muktananda Mandir of today. MUCH smaller...the back section of MM used to be a separate set of rooms and the walls were knocked down to expand the meditation hall. Also, all those columns and pillars, and the opulent pujas, weren't there either. The coloring of the carpet and the walls were also very, VERY different. GM changed that hall significantly and made it a LOT more luxurious.<br /><br />Oh...and the Nityananda temple was MUCH smaller and was open-air. The facility seen in GM's day was also significantly enlarged and made much more opulent. All those crystals, the statues of the gods and goddesses, etc....none of that was there in Muk's day. Just an open air small (VERY small) temple with Nityananda's murti. In winter, there was a temporary enclosure put around it with space heaters to keep the murti from freezing. Just beyond the temple was a large, oblong fountain with flagpoles and flags of all the nations that SY had ashrams and centers in. And finally...all those statues of Shiva, Jesus, Moses, Martin Luther King, etc. seen on the "silent path" (another GM addition...in Muk's day there was no Atma Nidhi nor Sadhana Kutir...only what is now Anugraha)...it was GM who moved those to the silent path. All those statues used to be near the windows on the lawn in front of the "guru's house" side of the building in Muk's day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-35862797065943228342010-10-01T12:30:13.804-04:002010-10-01T12:30:13.804-04:00The questions were asked:
1. How long was Muk of...The questions were asked:<br /> <br />1. How long was Muk officially on the international guru circuit? <br /><br />Answer: First world tour was around 1970 or 1971, with VERY brief visits to Australia, the US, and Europe and was back in Ganeshpuri between 1971'ish and 1974. Second world tour was from 1974 - 1976. He was back in Ganeshpuri between '76 and '78. Third world tour was from 1978 and 1981. He went back to India in Autumn 1981 with a chartered Air India jetliner and a LOT of devotees following him there. If I remember correctly all the passengers were reported to be SY leadership and devotees.<br /><br /><br />2. And, prior to that, how long had he been developing a devotee base of any notable size in India? <br /><br />After he "succeeded" Nityananda in 1961 or 1962...I forget which year it was when Nityananda passed away.<br />He did seem to have many, many more Indian devotees (at least by my observation) than GM. Like I said in a prior post, many Muk devotees could not relate to either Malti or Subhash and dropped away after Muk died. In the case of many of the Indians, I suspect (but do not know for sure, just an educated guess) that they were younger and less "fully baked" from an Indian perspective, as well as less traditional, than Muk had been. And thus, perhaps many of them dropped away for such reasons...but again, it's just a guess. I know other Indians who've remained "loyal" throughout. In one such family of Marathi speakers originally from Pune, the grandmother was a devotee of the original Nityananda and the family has stuck by the "lineage" throughout.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-24702620714380231952010-10-01T11:05:59.403-04:002010-10-01T11:05:59.403-04:00As a bit of trivial pursuit, I'm now curious: ...As a bit of trivial pursuit, I'm now curious: how long was Muk officially on the international guru circuit? And, prior to that, how long had he been developing a devotee base of any notable size in India? Did the first Nityananda have an actual ashram of his own that Mukt used as a model or were GSP, SMA, etc. all Mukt's own devising? <br /><br />(Always had the sense with the original Nit that his devotees found him -- not the other way around -- and that he was just sort of "there" without concern, or much formality, one way or another about his "role"...)<br /><br />Anyway, just curious to know the window of time that can be marked off as Mukt's career. As a ballpark I'm guessing approx. 20 years? 1962-1982, with the latter 10 on the international scene? When Malti's parents first brought her to Mukt's ashram he was in his 60's?<br /><br />Thanks in advance for insight on the above from those who may have been around long enough ago to recall . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-30022168336714315482010-10-01T10:39:54.065-04:002010-10-01T10:39:54.065-04:00Forgot to mention earlier...people who started SY ...Forgot to mention earlier...people who started SY in the late '80's or during the '90's would be amazed at just how MANY non-Indian swamis there once were in SY. At one point the count was around 40 to 50 people, mostly non-Indian.<br /><br />Gradually, over a long period of time, most of those people left the Saraswati order to rejoin "civilian" life, quit SY entirely, or both.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-25748158321810952682010-10-01T10:37:30.580-04:002010-10-01T10:37:30.580-04:00Subhash was in orange because he actually WAS a sa...Subhash was in orange because he actually WAS a sannyasi by then.<br /><br />Subhash took Sannyasa along with a VERY LARGE group of non-Indians who became Swamis.<br /><br />I can't remember the date but I think it was either sometime in late 1980 or early 1981...and also can't remmber if the ceremonies were in Ganeshpuri or in Los Angeles...I want to say Los Angeles because Muk's third (and final) "World Tour" away from India lasted a good 2.5 to 3 years, and Muk was in Santa Monica prior to when I met him in Fallsburg in late spring 1981.<br /><br />Again, I'm kicking myself for having been a good sheep and burning all my old Siddha Path Magazines because the article and photos of the big group, including Subhash when he got the name "Nityananda" were DEFINITELY in Siddha Path, and I used to have that particular edition in my former collection.<br /><br />Drat. Burnt 'em all. What a waste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-92106560699057042082010-10-01T05:56:34.518-04:002010-10-01T05:56:34.518-04:00That twist in her body language when Mukt announce...That twist in her body language when Mukt announces his choice says everything. Malti was definitely surprised... or shocked. Her body reacted, she was not the guru then but a civilian. The video stamp says July 1981, the sannayasi ceremony was not until May 1982. Her hair is still long. But why then is Subash in orange? I got involved in the 1990's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-9259693389623220442010-10-01T02:08:41.701-04:002010-10-01T02:08:41.701-04:00As someone who didn't catch their first nasty ...As someone who didn't catch their first nasty whiff of this until I was in over my head, and someone who didn't come across until a few years after leaving such, um, small details as Subash being appointed first and a chunk of time before Malti at that, what's striking to me about this youtube clip is the juxtaposition of Nityanda standing in full swami regalia, and Malti kneeling in civilian attire, scooting out of the way as he is pronounced successor.<br /><br />To SEE this now -- nearly thirty years after the event took place, and almost two decades since my initial discovery of this SY "secret" propelled me into a what I thought at the time was a spiritual crisis -- I'm not quite sure what to make of my reaction. <br /><br />To actually SEE a moment in history we were so effectively convinced (at least those of us who came on board post-1985) never took place is a bit of a trip.<br /><br />But aside from the small thrill of seeing Gurumayi, her brother, and Baba all interacting in the same shot, watching it now, oddly, I feel almost nothing. <br /><br />- LucidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-35502291425939980062010-09-30T11:02:08.405-04:002010-09-30T11:02:08.405-04:00Well she certainly wasn't smiling at the "...Well she certainly wasn't smiling at the "news" was she?<br /><br />And I say "news" because there had been wide speculation during the months prior to that moment that merely be being given the name "Nityananda" during the sannyasa rituals that Muk held when Subhash was given that name, about what it portended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-55932154418953039782010-09-30T10:07:31.693-04:002010-09-30T10:07:31.693-04:00What do you think of Malti's body language whe...What do you think of Malti's body language when Mukt declares the brother as the successor in that video? I am trying to figure out if she was happy or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-55016835967474797302010-09-30T05:42:06.499-04:002010-09-30T05:42:06.499-04:00Wow...didn't know video of that still existed....Wow...didn't know video of that still existed. Obviously Subhash didn't burn his copies!<br /><br />If I'm not mistaken, the beach scenes with the dog right after Muk garlanded Subhash were filmed in Miami...I believe during Winter 1979 or 1980? Can't remember exactly, unfortunately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-15431715493549512462010-09-29T23:58:40.836-04:002010-09-29T23:58:40.836-04:00At about the 30 second mark you will see a clip fr...At about the 30 second mark you will see a clip from 1981 of Muktanda garlanding Nityananda, declaring "He will be my succesor" while Malti sits watching off to the side:<br /><br />Shanti Mandir Temple of Peace <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLnt-d1eYGMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-25709033060848499672010-09-28T14:28:31.202-04:002010-09-28T14:28:31.202-04:00Sorry for the multiple posts...not sure what happe...Sorry for the multiple posts...not sure what happened there.<br /><br />I only hit the "publish" button once. And the whole website dropped away and my internet connection went down. Argh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-4123616844993432812010-09-28T14:26:22.718-04:002010-09-28T14:26:22.718-04:00So the connection was the statement by Muk "Y...So the connection was the statement by Muk "You have been accepted into my university, but it is up to you whether you graduate."<br /><br />When GM told the sangham that Nit would be "retiring" and returning to normal devotee life (and actually pledged his loyalty to his sister on video!) the explanation given was that he DIDN'T graduate and had let lust get the better of him.<br /><br />But the weird thing was, there was an article in Siddha Path where GM made some reference to some joke or something going on at the Ashram (not sure which one) that women's panties had been found in Nit Jr's quarters and that somebody had left them there. I forget the context of the explanation of WHY they were left there, but I CLEARLY remember the reference in the article. Long and short is that they were trying to make light or humor of it.<br /><br />And what I realized years later was that either Malti first tried to COVER for Subhash, or was simply buying herself time to figure out how to deal with the situation to her own best advantage.<br /><br />As to WHY that reference even made it into Siddha Path...beats the heck outta me. Why would anyone in their right mind air their own "dirty laundry" (Literally!! LMAOROTF!!) for the SY world to read...sure beats the heck outta me.<br /><br />Later, the reason for the picture and magazine and video burning was that what Nit Jr did had been impure, and that the photos of him and references to him carried an impurity and would be unhelpful to people's progress in their sadhana.<br /><br />Like many, I simply willingly suspended disbelief and put my old Siddha Paths and photos of Nit Jr into a trashcan and had a little bonfire in my backyard.<br /><br />And I shake my head now at the foolishness of it and am ashamed to have participated in it. To think of the value such photos and magazines would have, in convincing people who weren't around at that time, that they really HAVE been lied to...would have been PRICELESS.<br /><br />I pretty much had it all...the Siddha Path with Muk announcing Nit Jr was his successor (article and photos), the Siddha Paths of the Rajabhishek, Malti's sannyasa, and Pattabhishek ceremonies, the Siddha Paths after Muk's passing, loads of photos of both of them on the "shared sofa throne" for darshan. <br /><br />ALL of them, up in smoke.<br />Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-83835861616687497732010-09-28T14:26:21.803-04:002010-09-28T14:26:21.803-04:00So the connection was the statement by Muk "Y...So the connection was the statement by Muk "You have been accepted into my university, but it is up to you whether you graduate."<br /><br />When GM told the sangham that Nit would be "retiring" and returning to normal devotee life (and actually pledged his loyalty to his sister on video!) the explanation given was that he DIDN'T graduate and had let lust get the better of him.<br /><br />But the weird thing was, there was an article in Siddha Path where GM made some reference to some joke or something going on at the Ashram (not sure which one) that women's panties had been found in Nit Jr's quarters and that somebody had left them there. I forget the context of the explanation of WHY they were left there, but I CLEARLY remember the reference in the article. Long and short is that they were trying to make light or humor of it.<br /><br />And what I realized years later was that either Malti first tried to COVER for Subhash, or was simply buying herself time to figure out how to deal with the situation to her own best advantage.<br /><br />As to WHY that reference even made it into Siddha Path...beats the heck outta me. Why would anyone in their right mind air their own "dirty laundry" (Literally!! LMAOROTF!!) for the SY world to read...sure beats the heck outta me.<br /><br />Later, the reason for the picture and magazine and video burning was that what Nit Jr did had been impure, and that the photos of him and references to him carried an impurity and would be unhelpful to people's progress in their sadhana.<br /><br />Like many, I simply willingly suspended disbelief and put my old Siddha Paths and photos of Nit Jr into a trashcan and had a little bonfire in my backyard.<br /><br />And I shake my head now at the foolishness of it and am ashamed to have participated in it. To think of the value such photos and magazines would have, in convincing people who weren't around at that time, that they really HAVE been lied to...would have been PRICELESS.<br /><br />I pretty much had it all...the Siddha Path with Muk announcing Nit Jr was his successor (article and photos), the Siddha Paths of the Rajabhishek, Malti's sannyasa, and Pattabhishek ceremonies, the Siddha Paths after Muk's passing, loads of photos of both of them on the "shared sofa throne" for darshan. <br /><br />ALL of them, up in smoke.<br />Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794942461067348825.post-50632512536692208532010-09-28T14:26:20.573-04:002010-09-28T14:26:20.573-04:00So the connection was the statement by Muk "Y...So the connection was the statement by Muk "You have been accepted into my university, but it is up to you whether you graduate."<br /><br />When GM told the sangham that Nit would be "retiring" and returning to normal devotee life (and actually pledged his loyalty to his sister on video!) the explanation given was that he DIDN'T graduate and had let lust get the better of him.<br /><br />But the weird thing was, there was an article in Siddha Path where GM made some reference to some joke or something going on at the Ashram (not sure which one) that women's panties had been found in Nit Jr's quarters and that somebody had left them there. I forget the context of the explanation of WHY they were left there, but I CLEARLY remember the reference in the article. Long and short is that they were trying to make light or humor of it.<br /><br />And what I realized years later was that either Malti first tried to COVER for Subhash, or was simply buying herself time to figure out how to deal with the situation to her own best advantage.<br /><br />As to WHY that reference even made it into Siddha Path...beats the heck outta me. Why would anyone in their right mind air their own "dirty laundry" (Literally!! LMAOROTF!!) for the SY world to read...sure beats the heck outta me.<br /><br />Later, the reason for the picture and magazine and video burning was that what Nit Jr did had been impure, and that the photos of him and references to him carried an impurity and would be unhelpful to people's progress in their sadhana.<br /><br />Like many, I simply willingly suspended disbelief and put my old Siddha Paths and photos of Nit Jr into a trashcan and had a little bonfire in my backyard.<br /><br />And I shake my head now at the foolishness of it and am ashamed to have participated in it. To think of the value such photos and magazines would have, in convincing people who weren't around at that time, that they really HAVE been lied to...would have been PRICELESS.<br /><br />I pretty much had it all...the Siddha Path with Muk announcing Nit Jr was his successor (article and photos), the Siddha Paths of the Rajabhishek, Malti's sannyasa, and Pattabhishek ceremonies, the Siddha Paths after Muk's passing, loads of photos of both of them on the "shared sofa throne" for darshan. <br /><br />ALL of them, up in smoke.<br />Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com